Today is an historic day: George W. Bush will vacate the capitol. Phew. How could someone with an IQ of 91* rule the world is one of the most profound questions I’ve asked myself in my whole life. And the only reason I can think of is that he cheated (or, more probably, someone cheated for him.) During his term, he started two wars killing thousands of innocent civilians and wrecked the economy of the whole planet (and he invented a lot of words.)
Of course, today is historic for another reason too: Barack Obama will become President of the United States of America in exactly 3 hours and 13 minutes. And I have big hopes that he will inspire countless of young, intelligent and honest people to get into politics. And the old, stupid and dishonest will have to leave. My country, Mauritius, needs that… urgently.
* this is an urban legend.
carrotmadman6 says
Today is the start of the tenure of perhaps the best American president… or the world’s greatest conman. Time will bear witness. :)
I hope I may live long enough to watch a “new generation of politicians inspired by Obama” taking over Mauritius…
selven says
:p again obama!..LOL
Hmm i do agree that bush wasn’t a model of a president.. but
cannot be a reason! IQ tests are something biased .. so judging a leader by IQ would mean ignorance …
Nope he didn’t cheat, the system is flawed, he had money, lots of money, an ex president as father.. so how do you think that system cannot be in his favor?
pffft, that’s simple logic!
Whether he started it or not, has never been proved yet, we don’t know how much of manipulation has been done, i am no pro-bush, neither do i particularly like the guy, but i know that if you were at the top of the world’s once biggest military you would have definitely striked back, to get your voice heard… infact, with a maybe 135 iq i would have instead nuked each countries that i received information the so called attackers might have hide, IF they were not captured and extradited for sentence in my country… as i don’t like people playing with my stuffs :p… wouldn’t you have launched a massive operation???
I have some hopes on him… specially in the medical field :p i hope he brings some changes there which the rest of the world might chose to follow.
TRUE true true… i wonder whether he wanted to get the stupidity award!
No one prevents you from dreaming, seems that these porks will still stay, and the system will not change for now … most people don’t think some steps ahead, they only cares about what will happen now.
avinash says
Barack Obama is now the President of the USA and I hope he changes, directly or indirectly, our world for the better. Good luck to him :-)
Eddy Young says
I’m with Selven mostly. Although Obama made history, he has yet to prove himself, so I don’t understand how people can already be claiming that he will be the best president ever. Seems a bit biased to me.
Of course, I do hope for better things to come. Please, Obama, bring 1998 back.
Eddy.
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
hi. I’m here. anyone else wants to join?
if it’s so urgent, might as well jump a few guns and get started. And the major trouble in getting people involved is that they are unlikely to get involved it they don’t know they are needed to be involved. Or.. is it that would you rather it be someone else?
you can’t change things overnight but you can come up with a plan overnight. And improve that plan by next night and a few night later.. we’ll take over the world or at least have a rock solid plan of action that will get a lot more people on board. Actually, taking over can be done overnight too, if you have the will, which I’m sure some of us do.
I, myself, am not “inspired” by obama although he may be a positive factor in the grand scheme of things. I was the way I am a long time before. You can’t expect Obama to come clean up here.. anyway, hope you don’t mind me hijacking your blog like this.
avinash says
To Eddy:
People don’t know if he’ll be the best President ever but he is bound to be better than the previous one… who nearly destroyed the world. As for wanting 1998 back, why? I’d rather have a great 2010.
To Yaasir:
Don’t worry. You can hijack my blog whenever you want as you are a genuine guy who wants to do big things for his country.
selven says
biased :p
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
aw, my previous comment must have been refused by Askimet.
as I was saying, being called genuine and trying isn’t enough. It’s only been a couple of weeks but as far as I can tell, no one else yet seems interested… which finds me in the same kind of annoying loop we’re suppose to be getting rid of..
and I’m really am not trying to get something started for my country. I’m not a politician and don’t intend to be..
biased :p
who isn’t? it’s just that everybody likes certain things better than others. Perfectly irrational but it seems to be the norm.
Jeshan says
Saying that George Bush’s IQ is 91 is ridiculous. Someone with a comparable IQ could not have passed SC over here! In fact, that was a hoax according to wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_George_W._Bush#Intellectual_and_psychological_ability
About the wars, it is true that innocent civilians are dying. But think about what would happen if he did not push for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? Iraq would still be under Saddam and Afghanistan under Taleban-flavoured Sharia! Saddam carried out genocides. Have you ever seen what the Talebans do to civilians? They execute (read: assassinate) people in public. Civlians would die in Afghanistan with/without the Americans.
Finally, it is too early to say that Obama will be a ‘great’ president. He still has to step into office and be faced with a lot of pressure.
avinash says
Jeshan,
You should be more attentive. Urban legend = hoax :-)
As for what would happen if Bush did not push for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, no one knows.
What we know instead is that a majority of Americans have voted for Obama because (i) too many Americans are dying in Iraq (ii) the war is crippling the American economy and (iii) the war is unjustified as not even one “weapon of mass destruction” was found there (ask the CIA.) You are entitled to have your opinion but mine is that Bush started the invasion of Iraq in 2003 (in total disrespect of all international laws) only because he wanted to win the presidential elections of 2004. That thousands of civilians died in the process is just a minor detail.
As for Afghanistan, things are different as the USA is not at war with the country itself but rather against the Al-Qaeda terrorists (some of them being Talibans) hiding there. As a matter of fact, the current Afghan government supports the war against terrorism. That’s why Obama wants the troops stationed in Iraq to be redeployed in Afghanistan.
To summarise:
The war in Iraq was a “marketing” campaign which killed thousands
The war against Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan is not a war against Afghanistan
Obama will stop the war in Iraq
Obama will continue the war against Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan
Muslims are not terrorists :-)
selven says
Obama obama obama, am sooo pissed off, You people seems to think that this is a big deal because the guy is a black and got to be a president in the united states, a country with mostly whites….
That’s the f*ckin mindset i don’t like, because just merely throwing a party coz he is black and he won in a white world makes you a racist…
Secondly, in most european countries and even in the states, its not uncommon to have a black [or mix] as someone on top… they just don’t care…
mais the BIG F*CKING PROBLEM is …. you know many part of the world in which black/yellow/red/whatever the heck would elect a white on the top position??? Pas beaucoup.. probably just south Africa … tbut chekc out the population… then reply.
In iran will the nation elect a non muslim??
In Mauritius will the nation elect a non hindu?? (without conditions???)
In Zimbabwe do you think the nation will elect a white dude there????
Hell nooo!
People sometimes hate to admit it, but it seems to me, c pas blanc ki raciste, mais le contraire! Many a times am among friends or walking around, 1 white guy comes around, and almost the first thing that comes out will be “he is soo arrogant”, wtf, many have prejudices like that as if it is an instinct…
Sure, avec colonialist tou sa avant, things were pretty f*cked up, but hell, isn’t it time to start thinking people as human and start to judge people according to their abilities instead of what they look like???
Its no surprise obama won, because i believe americans have probably evolved in thoughts and atleast started judging people as equal humans rather than pigments from a palette!
Patrick Ng says
I do wish Obama all the best. How things will turn out remains to be seen. For example, he wants health care to be affordable by more people, which in itself is a good thing. However, more affordable health care will inevitably mean more taxes (a good example is Canada), something Americans have always been against (generally).
avinash says
This is a big deal Selven because…
You’re saying it all. Obama won in the USA because Americans have evolved. Now, if Americans can evolve, it’s perfectly legitimate to think that Mauritians (for instance) can also evolve. The only thing that can keep Mauritians from evolving is the “old” politicians who have no interest in having evolved Mauritians. Hence the need for a new generation of politicians who will, at heart, want Mauritians to evolve.
CQFD.
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
@selven: but hell, isn’t it time to start thinking people as human and start to judge people according to their abilities instead of what they look like???
nice. are you interested in joining me? evolving is nice but I’m the only one doing it as far as I can tell.. Come on all you single cell organisms, join together. next thing you know you’ll be popping gills and a backbone.
But you should remember how they look like is often part of how they act.
take our own politicians. they are doing something. believe it or not. some of them are trying at least. But for a lot, the way they look, act and speak is enough for you to hate their guts. horribly unfair? perhaps. But it’s still true.
And yes, we are dealing with humans, which are only creatures of flesh and blood. They have instincts (and quite frankly I often prefer acting on my own most of the time) and they do get carried away by emotions. The currently prevailing emotion is that of a fascination for the journey of the current president. Even my sister likes him. It’s a bit like calling an Ampere an Ampere because it’s named after a guy called Ampere. Here they’re calling Obama. Does anybody remember Lionel Jospin btw? I really liked that guy.
And avinash is right, it is a sign of an evolution in the american society. We do not all see the universe in the same way. and for many racism and bigorty is still a very real thing in the US. for those at least it seems like a victory of sorts.
annd… consider this:
https://www.noulakaz.net/2009/01/14/air-mauritius-where-did-it-go-wrong/#comment-172177
and this
https://www.noulakaz.net/2009/01/14/air-mauritius-where-did-it-go-wrong/#comment-172212
honestly, I don’t think I could have that kind of patience. But I could seriously use one who has.
@Patrick Ng: However, more affordable health care will inevitably mean more taxes
no. you don’t have to throw money at something for it to work. Money is a fiction used as a meansto quantify things but if we are to move towards something better, it should be seen as irrelevant. One could see it this way, would you just put a price on someone’s life?
avinash says
You have to be patient in life :-)
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
perhaps…
but there is strength in numbers or maybe speed in parallelism.
and being too patient sometimes means one is reluctant to accept rapid changes.
avinash says
I was referring to the comment posted by the n00b :-)
selven says
pfft, the way i see it, the way of thinking of the Americans had already changed years before, its only here that it hasn’t.
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
the thing is, most people are n00bs in one way or another. In facts most people in mauritius are noobs. Like our noob, who asks about web hosting out of the blue (there are quite a lot of those all over your blog). in a way it’s good that there are people asking questions. Nobody will ever know anything if nobody ever asks.. But still, it does test one’s patience.
How to put this… “education” is a bit of joke. People know how to read and write and whatever it is they have been taught. but that’s about it. they’ve been taught. they are set in their ways.. they won’t see past what just in front of them.
people. young, old, educated or not, already have their ‘stakes’ in the current system. They won’t want to simply let what they have go. even for something that would ultimately be better for everyone.
Innovation is something that come very easily to me, you and some of the other less brain dead ones. But most people just are thoroughly confused by it. they won’t have a part of it. it’s unacceptable to them to change things. (a bit like religious logic)
or this other bit I like a lot.
they are much more likely to start laughing because their brains are stuck on “laugh at things you can’t immediately understand” mode.
I can talk about major restructuring of the system all I want, if nobody except little children want to hear about it, it becomes rather hard to get anywhere without being excruciatingly patient….
ok, but honestly, would you like to help? I’m not asking for a 24/7 commitment. just suggestions and ideas. It’s very nice to use your blog and the facebook thing to talk about this and all but eventually, we should move to something bigger and actually get people involved.
avinash says
I am willing to help as something must be done or else our future is bleak. Deep inside, I feel that the answer to our problems is better communication and getting more (young) people to participate and voice out their opinion. For me, the best way to get people involved is to use that formidable tool known as the Internet (like Obama did in fact.) Why don’t we setup something like Agoravox where (fed-up) Mauritians can voice out their opinion?
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
actually there already is something that exists where people speak up. On a few radio shows. one of them is on sunday. kool fm? and the other everyday on radio plus I think. You can learn a lot of things just by idly listening.
I’d suggest we keep things simple to start with.. Instead of trying to make something big which will fall apart all quickly, there’s the forum thing I already made. Rest assured that even if I’m hosting it on my domain, it is perfectly neutral ground. I would like to involve only people who can be trusted at first. people who are known to actually think. You don’t want noobs gate crashing the place before the party is even started.
People are already
BlueBerry says
“You’re saying it all. Obama won in the USA because Americans have evolved. Now, if Americans can evolve, it’s perfectly legitimate to think that Mauritians (for instance) can also evolve.”
So, if Americans have evolved, should we follow suite like they do i.e. as they think, act, speak, reason, behave, etc? Are they necessarily our role models and if yes,why should it be so?
Btw, evolution takes time… remember watching ‘Il etait une fois l’homme’? We need not have an ‘Obama’ of our own to change things around for good. Bright ideas will crop up somewhere at some point in time. But noone is immortal, so we might not all witness the change. ;)
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
eh? seems I forgot to type part of my previous comment. except I can’t really remember what else I was about to say.
although it does make some sense that way too. it’s easier to get something coherent when there are only a few instruments than a cacophony.
If you think I’m doing something wrong, I would expect that you, or at least someone, tells me about it. Or else we’d be back to everybody watching and waiting for the other one to fail then come in with their own solution (not because it’s better or worse, just because it’s theirs).
Raj says
“one of them is on sunday. kool fm? ” Actually its on TOP FM and its Koze do mo pep.
selven says
ketwaroo is right!
but one sad part of you being right is that, many who were born with the current system as it is will still consider it normal even if it deeply sucks, and will fight you ..even if their points holds no logic!
avinash says
To BlueBerry:
It’s not about us becoming clones of Americans. Rather, it’s about choosing people depending on their competence rather than their political side or the colour of their skin or the amount of money their family possesses. Look at the incredible mess at Air Mauritius. This is solely because incompetents have been chosen over the years to run the company.
Were we incredibly rich with tons of oil, we couldn’t care less. But given the minuscule amount of resources available here and the worldwide financial problems, I believe it’s high time we stop being hypocrites and realise that the future is extremely bleak if we continue wasting our energy on the petty instead of the fundamental.
Ketwaroo D. Yaasir says
haa… @ myself
we should move to something bigger and actually get people involved.
and
I’d suggest we keep things simple to start with.. Instead of trying to make something big which will fall apart all quickly,
well, that’s evolution for you. ideas and opinions change rapidly as new factors come into light.
I’m currently working with a few close friends to come up with a sort of masterplan. Once we’ve iterated on the idea enough to make it look good and somewhat convincing or at least coherent. I’ll let others in on it. if anyone is really interested to help in those very early stages though, they can contact me. I got a facebook account and stuff…
BlueBerry says
Fact or fiction:
1. There are almost no realistic and achievable goals (short-term and long-term). e.g. our education system is a real mess, from the school infrastructure, to our so-called the pride in our spoken French & English (believe me, a Seychellian layman may speak betters English than most of our honourable members of the Assembly).
2. Our leaders fail to vindicate lavish and useless spending of tax-payers’ money on hundreds of ‘national plans of action’ bound to be discarded or deemed too costly to implement.
3. Since 1987, it has always been a never-ending story of alternating governments. The outcome: always trying to undo the work of the predecessors, just for the sake of imprinting one’s mark in our country’s short history and implementing solutions doomed to fail or rejected after the elections… for sure. Example stated in 1.
4. We waste our time in petty and useless stuff and at times, make a mountain out of a molehill. Example: The decision of boycotting Enrico Macias’s concert and Israeli products when it matters very little to us. The reason: so as not to let go of a non-negligible section of the electorate with the general elections due next year at latest. And I won’t comment on the cause and effect part because we seem not to care. That’s the way things are ;D
BlueBerry says
Sorry, a few typos in there… :D
riishii says
Well, I do hope that Obama becomes a successful leader…
Let’s hope he also gives a hand in saving the world:
http://ramdaursingh.blogspot.com/2009/01/21-december-2012-end-of-world.html
;)
Jeshan says
we could all suggest different kinds of things, but in the end, everyone will have to agree that mauritians simply can’t vote for a person from a minority group.. even a part of you knows that, isn’t it avinash?
Look at Iceland, their new PM is gay! Thinkable to have this in Mauritius?
As Mr Pascal Grosset says it:
“No We can’t! … honestly we really can’t!!!”
Jumping Turtle says
tou dimoune dan morice ti p soter piller kan obama ti elue, moi y compris.. mais ene zafer mo pa compren , dialogue pendant sa periode la ct :” WA ENE NOIR INE PRESDIENT USA!!!” SAKILI” , mais kan ena election dan morice, DIALOGUE:” pa pu vote li moi , pa meme religion ki moi ha, pa meme caste”.. pffft mo truv sa attitude la bien deplorable… a tou bane moricien ki ena sa mentaliter la: ” BALLIER DEVANT ZOT LA PORTE AVANT , APRES ZOT ALLE BALLIER COT ZOT VOISIN!!!”
Li decourageant truv bane zeness encr p garde sa mentaliter la…
avinash says
C’est vrai. Ena encore pas mal zenes ki encore racistes… (mo pas servi mo communaliste parceki pas vé dire narien sa)
Jumping Turtle says
sans oublier casteist….